[Grubb's] Random Thoughts of the Day

SoDeepPolaris · Post by **SoDeepPolaris** » Sun May 08, 2005 1:04 pm

Grubb wrote: Uuuh, no...? Your on the right track, but your a bit off.

Anarcy = No Goverment Control

Liberal = Some Goverment Control

Conservitive = Lots of Goverment Control

Communism = Compleate Goverment Control

Anarchy is no government control, correct. But you have to realize with most Liberals, they want the government to assist the people. Remember FDR? He created numerous government economic assistance programs during the depression. The Republican Supreme Court did all they could to bring those programs down. The Republicans were mainly the ones who fought Communism during the Cold War, so I don't think the two can be compared.

x5060 · Post by **x5060** » Sun May 08, 2005 1:16 pm

SoDeepPolaris wrote:
Grubb wrote: Uuuh, no...? Your on the right track, but your a bit off.

Anarcy = No Goverment Control

Liberal = Some Goverment Control

Conservitive = Lots of Goverment Control

Communism = Compleate Goverment Control
Anarchy is no government control, correct. But you have to realize with most Liberals, they want the government to assist the people. Remember FDR? He created numerous government economic assistance programs during the depression. The Republican Supreme Court did all they could to bring those programs down. The Republicans were mainly the ones who fought Communism during the Cold War, so I don't think the two can be compared.

Yeah, he has liberalism and conservatism switched. If youve noticed conservatives are all for making government small, where liberals want it to grow to take care of the people.

and grubb this is basic government 101 stuff.

TylerHHS · Post by **TylerHHS** » Sun May 08, 2005 1:21 pm

Yeah, basic!

politik · Post by **politik** » Sun May 08, 2005 1:48 pm

im so lonely. im so lonely.

x5060 · Post by **x5060** » Sun May 08, 2005 1:57 pm

TylerHHS wrote:Yeah, basic!

Took a semester in government and this was all disccused to death.

Its like how liberals generally form thier opinions and arguments based around how they feel. Emotion to them is the most important thing. and conservatives generally base thier opinions and arguments on cold hard numbers, facts, statistics and probability. weigh all sides then pick what seems logical (no matter how much we might not like it) And im not trying to say there is anything wrong with basing your political viewpoints on emotion.

As my only truly politically unbiased teacher said "extremeism in either camp will be the doom of us all"

http://www.tysknews.com/TyskWorks/what_ ... vatism.htm

Original Sin · Post by **Original Sin** » Sun May 08, 2005 3:25 pm

Most conservatives base their ideas on numbers, but religion seems to be a growing trend these days. In the past, while the presidents often quite religious, they said their religious standpoints would not affect their terms in office. Our current president, not the case.
In a lot of conservatives in office religion is a big thing now. That's what worries me more than anything right now. That, and wondering what we're going to blow up next.

Blaze · Post by **Blaze** » Sun May 08, 2005 4:45 pm

TylerHHS wrote:Yes, but I call liberals communists because they tend to support more government welfare programs and raising taxes for the rich to give to the poor, which would equal things out more, which is communism.

LOL THEN CANADA IS COMMUNIST!

SoDeepPolaris · Post by **SoDeepPolaris** » Sun May 08, 2005 4:52 pm

Blaze wrote:
TylerHHS wrote:Yes, but I call liberals communists because they tend to support more government welfare programs and raising taxes for the rich to give to the poor, which would equal things out more, which is communism.
LOL THEN CANADA IS COMMUNIST!

No, they're socialist.

Tyler is somewhat correct, but Communism, in it's original Marxist ideas, was a basis of how Karl Marx believed society should exist.

Tyler, you should call them socialists, unless you're just calling Liberals Commies as a mudsling.

Blaze · Post by **Blaze** » Sun May 08, 2005 5:02 pm

SoDeepPolaris wrote:
Blaze wrote:
TylerHHS wrote:Yes, but I call liberals communists because they tend to support more government welfare programs and raising taxes for the rich to give to the poor, which would equal things out more, which is communism.
LOL THEN CANADA IS COMMUNIST!
No, they're socialist.

I just say that since Canada has so many welfare and medicare programs according to Tyler they are communist.

God Of Rock · Post by **God Of Rock** » Sun May 08, 2005 5:18 pm

Jeez.....can't we just hate everyone that doesn't post on
IndyDDR and move on?

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sun May 08, 2005 5:39 pm

God Of Rock wrote:Jeez.....can't we just hate everyone that doesn't post on
IndyDDR and move on?

I'd rather just hate EVERYONE.

Original Sin · Post by **Original Sin** » Sun May 08, 2005 5:43 pm

Spazz wrote:
God Of Rock wrote:Jeez.....can't we just hate everyone that doesn't post on
IndyDDR and move on?
I'd rather just hate EVERYONE.

Exactly! Don't discriminate! Hate everyone!

God Of Rock · Post by **God Of Rock** » Sun May 08, 2005 6:04 pm

I ESPECIALLY HATE EUROPEANS.

I mean...yay equal hate!

Grubb · Post by **Grubb** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:29 am

x5060 wrote:
SoDeepPolaris wrote:
Grubb wrote: Uuuh, no...? Your on the right track, but your a bit off.

Anarcy = No Goverment Control

Liberal = Some Goverment Control

Conservitive = Lots of Goverment Control

Communism = Compleate Goverment Control
Anarchy is no government control, correct. But you have to realize with most Liberals, they want the government to assist the people. Remember FDR? He created numerous government economic assistance programs during the depression. The Republican Supreme Court did all they could to bring those programs down. The Republicans were mainly the ones who fought Communism during the Cold War, so I don't think the two can be compared.
Yeah, he has liberalism and conservatism switched. If youve noticed conservatives are all for making government small, where liberals want it to grow to take care of the people.

and grubb this is basic government 101 stuff.

SoDeep,

That's exactly what I said.

"Liberals" = SOME government control.

But also, It was the consept of Democracy that was fighting the consept of Communism. Yes, there were mostly Republicans in office durring the cold war, but it wasn't the Republicans Vs. the Communist, it was the Democratic system (Which the republican party is a part of) that was fighting the spread of Commuism in other countries.

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x5060,

You are the one that are mistaken, you have no idea what your talking about.

The word "Liberal" in the terms of politics means "Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded." Which is what the Democratic party is known for.

The word "Conservative" means " Traditional or restrained in style." Which is what the republican party is known for.

The more "Liberal" you are, the closer to being an Anarchist you are. Because the more you swing to that side the less control you want the government to have. For example, Liberals would prefure that their local governments make rulings on Gay marrage, or perhaps legalize it. Giving people more "Liberties."

The more "Conservative" you are, the closer to being a Communist you are because you want more government control. For example conservatives would want to see their local or national governments ban Gay marrage. In other words to "Conserve" it.

Anything beyond that, and it's personal opinion about one side or the other.

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And on a personal note, These ARE very basic things that I DID learn in "GOVT 101: The Principals of Government" when I took it a couple of years ago, and they are principals I put into effect when I was working as an intern for the Knox County Democratic Party last year.

Also, your only reasons for saying otherwise would be.

A) A simple mistake on your part.

B) If your republican, your might be uncomfortable with the "Conservative" being compaired with something as dreadful as Communism.

C) You felt the need to try and prove me wrong, dispite your lack of knowledge on the subject.

D) You felt it was your turn to start insulting me, as many people on this site have felt.

E) Any combonation of the above.

God Of Rock · Post by **God Of Rock** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:57 am

Immmmmmmmmmmmmm aaaaaa wake-wake-wake-wake-wake and
dont know whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...........