Marital Discord from World of Warcraft

ITGMS Mike · Post by **ITGMS Mike** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:24 pm

SoDeepPolaris wrote:
ITGMS Mike wrote:interesting thing just happened a few minutes ago. my friends ex girlfriend(whom used to hate WoW because my friend would always want to play it instead of her.) called and asked who made ragnarok. after finding the answer to that question, we also find out that she now plays WoW lol. and she stated. (not in these exact words) "I can now tell that you really loved me because of the times you put me in front of world of warcraft. Because its so ADDICTIVE." How great is that lol.
What a bitch.

lol i think so most of the time too. but now shes addicting to the game i guess? and openly admits it? thats pretty lame if you ask me.

lgolem · Post by **lgolem** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:00 am

I used to play WoW, then I got a life..... True Story

letshavetea · Post by **letshavetea** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:23 am

Fluffyumpkins wrote:
letshavetea wrote:The fact is, is the game is addictive. No, it's not BLIZZARD's fault for creating an amazing game, but it's not Marlboro's fault for hooking kids on their drugs either.
Those aren't even close to the same. The nicotine in tobacco has been proven to be physically addictive. Nothing about World of Warcraft has come close to this. WoW is apparently a really good game (though I don't care for it) that people enjoy.

You're right, I just grabbed the common addiction that was commonly bashed because... that's the first one that came to mind. You could substitute any other addiction in there though and the analogy stays the same. Like Malictus said about the gambling. It's been a common "belief" that people can be addicted to gambling, how would that addiction be any different to that of WoW?

And I don't mean the obvious where one person gives up their money... whereas the other person gives up all of their time. The thing is, you have to just put more time in to WoW to get better. Hell, I used to play Runescape and I got crazy addicted to that. I remember saying one day "Fuck, a half hour? What can I do with that? I guess I could mine something for a while but I won't be able to smith it and make the helms..." as if a half hour isn't even a decent amount of time.

My friends all got into Runescape at the same time, so it wasn't like I lost my friends, we still "hung out" and in all honesty when I ended up quitting Runescape most of those kids weren't my friends anymore. They'd all still be so far into the game that that's all they cared about, that's all they'd talk about. When I eventually got tired of hearing about how many helms they made we kinda just stopped talking in RL.

How could I have kept my friendships with those kids? Stayed in Runescape. If I would have waited for them to get bored with it too, there'd be a chance that wouldn't have happened the way it did. That kind of thought process could easily tie you in to a game.

Hell, half the reason why I play Halo is because of the kids I've met on there. The difference is, in Halo they aren't counting on me to be online. WoW your clan or whatever is counting on you to be there. Nobody likes to let their friend down, and to not sign on, that's essentially what you're doing.

I'm sure I've lost several of you who read it entirely literally and don't try to actually understand the analogys I present, so if you're confused read it again...

Fluffyumpkins · Post by **Fluffyumpkins** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:40 pm

I've never known anyone that walked away from WoW reminiscing, "I'm glad I spent my time doing that."

Soma · Post by **Soma** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:47 pm

Fluffyumpkins wrote:I've never known anyone that walked away from WoW reminiscing, "I'm glad I spent my time doing that."

Word.

Isn't that basically true of any video game, especially those that are found online though? There's some notable exceptions, DDR which will keep you healthy, RPGs with an engaging storyline, games that you can play with friends, etc.

I don't regret my time playing QWTF or Puzzle Pirates (eh, probably 6 years together) because I made some genuine friendships and I enjoyed myself but I know that I'll look back on a number of games and I can't justify the amount of time I spent on them. I had friends on Ragnarok Online and it was nice to be able to hang out with them in game, but realistically that was probably only 1/10th of the time I spent on the game. I'd play all night and sleep in fits trying to catch an elusive boss character or to finally get a rare drop. What can I show for that? Nada & nil.

I think the real addiction in gaming is the fact that in most MMOs you can't simply drop them and come back months later like nothing happened. Your in game friends have vastly outlevelled you, you've missed new in game events and happenings, hell, your character might not even be waiting for you when you get back. We can't deny that the whole system is made to keep you coming back for more--greater 'rewards' for more time spent is the rule of thumb.

chocobojoe · Post by **chocobojoe** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:23 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIVTT4fgPQI

danc1005 · Post by **danc1005** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:48 am

OrangeLounger wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIVTT4fgPQI

Video Compiler's so awesome.

I'VE GOT BALLS OF STEEL
BAL-BAL-BAL-BALLS OF STEEL

ShammerS · Post by **ShammerS** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:03 pm

Fluffyumpkins wrote:I've never known anyone that walked away from WoW reminiscing, "I'm glad I spent my time doing that."

Not to be intentionally contradictory, but allow me to be the first then! I've been playing WoW since launch and have only recently begun to slow down. It has been the single greatest reunion tool amongst all of my close friends from high school since we graduated, and especially during my first year in college - it was an awesome communication tool for people hundreds of miles apart.

I've never played it hardcore, but I can certainly say it was both enjoyable and a useful way of spending my time. Videoconferencing wouldn't have been quite as fun...both because it's boring and none of them are girls.

mexican ninja · Post by **mexican ninja** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:40 pm

Soma wrote: Word.

Isn't that basically true of any video game, especially those that are found online though?

Not really. I still consider the three hours of Portal to be in the top 24 greatest hours of my life. I've really only recently started getting back into video games but some of the best days of my life have been just chilling with some broskis and playing Stunt Race FX. And the only time I regret playing hours of TF2 is when I lose, but its not like that ever happens

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SoDeepPolaris · Post by **SoDeepPolaris** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:39 pm

mexican ninja wrote:
Soma wrote: Word.

Isn't that basically true of any video game, especially those that are found online though?
Not really. I still consider the three hours of Portal to be in the top 24 greatest hours of my life. I've really only recently started getting back into video games but some of the best days of my life have been just chilling with some broskis and playing Stunt Race FX. And the only time I regret playing hours of TF2 is when I lose, but its not like that ever happens .

Cause it's friggin' impossible for me to backstab your scout ass.

mexican ninja · Post by **mexican ninja** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:42 am

SoDeepPolaris wrote:
mexican ninja wrote:
Soma wrote: Word.

Isn't that basically true of any video game, especially those that are found online though?
Not really. I still consider the three hours of Portal to be in the top 24 greatest hours of my life. I've really only recently started getting back into video games but some of the best days of my life have been just chilling with some broskis and playing Stunt Race FX. And the only time I regret playing hours of TF2 is when I lose, but its not like that ever happens .
Cause it's friggin' impossible for me to backstab your scout ass.

in the future all art will be done with garrys mod

Original Sin · Post by **Original Sin** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:10 am

BigBadOrc wrote:I think smoking is the perfect example of why it is the designers fault for using intentionally misleading advertising to get you to use their product. Consumers should be able to trust that companies will not lie to or mislead them. This needs to be regulated better.

Smoking and gaming are nothing alike, nor are the addictions even remotely the same. Besides, if you're getting on smoking for using appealing advertising...that's the whole POINT of advertising. They use attractive women in their adds? So what, a lot of products do, and when you get right down to it, who's to say that you can't smoke with an attractive woman at your side? It does happen. Putting intentionally ugly people in the ad would also be misleading. And besides, what's attractive in any aspect is a matter of opinion.

I've personally never even seen an ad for world of warcraft, and know exactly what it is. It doesn't need advertising...so many people play it, it could spread like wildfire just from one person to the next. They don't need to put swimsuit models in their ads...and even if they did, your average gamer knows better than to take it seriously. If anything, it'd be a comedic statement.

Calling for government regulation on everything is foolish, and a waste of resources that could be better spent on things that matter. Keep in mind, even a tiny bit of regulation requires a great deal of money. What we should be doing, is creating a society in which people know how to make their own choices...not create a government which is too large and restrictive, allowing people not to use their brain, because the government makes all their decisions for them.
People should know to take the media with a grain of salt, so to speak...if you believe everything you see and hear, and don't know how to think for yourself...I'd say you've got a bigger problem than a damn video game.

Don't blame the media and corporations for the blatant stupidity of mankind....some people ARE idiots, and DO make bad choices...the majority of us get along just fine. We needn't waste valuable tax dollars and resources over advertising. If they're making a statement that's false on a major point, then yeah, there's an issue...especially if it involves medication or something of that nature. But who they get to be in the ad? I really don't give a shit. Seeing a swimsuit model in a cigarette ad doesn't make me want to run out and by a pack.

Next you're going to start saying people's brain waves need monitoring, because on occasion, some of us have bad thoughts, and the government really should keep track of that.

You don't hear about these problems in other countries...Europe is notorious for having full blown nudity in commercials for...well, anything. And no one gives a shit. Problems like these are American....because we LET them be problems. Because we refuse to make people accountable for their own actions and decisions. It's not the governments job to make sure people aren't idiots....and if we continue to make it the government's job, it just encourages people not to be accountable. That is NOT a problem we want.

By the way, my 'net's down, so if you're gonna try to argue, I'm probably not gonna see it. Just FYI.

malictus · Post by **malictus** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:22 am

Original Sin wrote:I've personally never even seen an ad for world of warcraft.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bqJE5TH5jhc

I have to admit, this ad is freaking hilarious.

hermione · Post by **hermione** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:39 pm

There should be a World of Hogwarts, that would be epic.

lgolem wrote:I used to play WoW, then I got a life..... True Story

this is a serious discussion, please quit lying.

BigBadOrc · Post by **BigBadOrc** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:29 pm

Sup Original Sin

Yes, I agree that it would be unreasonable to make it illegal to put swim suit models in a cigarette ad. However, it is misleading to take a beautiful hot girl who has NEVER smoked in her life, hand her a cigarette, take a picture, and make an ad out of it. Enter the Jarvik/Pfizer scandal.

Big business DOES definitely need some strong regulation. For example in the food industry companies can add chemicals to their products to increase shelf live (trans fats) or enhance taste (aspartame, etc). If this is not banned/regulated, then the companies who try to take the moral high ground and not use them are at a serious disadvantage. The government is the ONLY one in a position to ensure that businesses stay honest and don't screw you over just to increase their profit margins.

I'm all about capitalism.. but it better be honest capitalism.

I meant to post a cigarette example in my last post but I guess I forgot. Here's something they got sued for: http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/ca ... efits.html