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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:49 pm
by ThatGuy
Riot wrote:HARD DRIVE : Seagate 80GB 7200RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB Cache
If you want an even better HD option, get a WD Raptor. The bigger one is 72Gig, which is close enough to what you have there. 10K RPM SATA is lovely.
If you want to overdo it, get two and RAID them. A coworker does this on his gaming machine, and highly recommends it.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:20 pm
by djfooboo
ThatGuy wrote:RAPTOR
Ghey I tells ya, Ghey.
Raptor 173$ for 74GB 3ms latency
DiamondMax 10 145$ for 250GB 4.17ms latency
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:51 pm
by hascoolnickname
meh, I like how quiet the seagates are. I guess if you are going to have a super loud fan then you don't need one.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:10 pm
by Riot
djfooboo wrote:Case: WTF, you need one of these.
I know there is one, just didn't copy and paste it. It looks nice. =P
And I am debating whether or not to stick with 6600 256mb or pay $65 more and go with 6600 GT 128mb. I hear there is a big difference, but while still tryin to maintain budget and keep low, I'm not sure how big the difference is and if its worth the $65. I assume it is, but I'm on the MMORPG scene and I favor less lag over best graphics. Does videocard have to do with lag at all?
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:22 pm
by Potter
video card is almost the biggest part in lag, cept for cpu. You dont nee dthe gt for mmo rpg'es tho, 256 mb is plenty, and the clock speed is adequate.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:38 pm
by seveneleven
Potter wrote:video card is almost the biggest part in lag, cept for cpu. You dont nee dthe gt for mmo rpg'es tho, 256 mb is plenty, and the clock speed is adequate.
the graphics card isnt really a big part of lag but more for the game "bogging" down lag is assosiated with latency derived from an inadiquate Internet connection or lack of bandwith...thats just my 2 cents
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:52 pm
by Ryan Dognaux
seveneleven wrote:the graphics card isnt really a big part of lag but more for the game "bogging" down lag is assosiated with latency derived from an inadiquate Internet connection or lack of bandwith...thats just my 2 cents
So the derivitive of lag is lack of bandwith... therefore the integral of bandwith is lag?

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:52 am
by Spazz
seveneleven wrote:Potter wrote:video card is almost the biggest part in lag, cept for cpu. You dont nee dthe gt for mmo rpg'es tho, 256 mb is plenty, and the clock speed is adequate.
the graphics card isnt really a big part of lag but more for the game "bogging" down lag is assosiated with latency derived from an inadiquate Internet connection or lack of bandwith...thats just my 2 cents
Are you a retard, 711? You're the type of person that gets on a server and bitches about the shitty lag when they're still running a vodoo3.
When there's tons of draw requests dumped onto a video card and it needs to keep swapping back into the system for extra memory, it'll "lag" you. The system will hang. Has next to nothing to do with your bandwith.... unless, you know, you're running on 56k and trying to run a torrent :p
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:42 am
by ThatGuy
djfooboo wrote:Raptor 173$ for 74GB 3ms latency
DiamondMax 10 145$ for 250GB 4.17ms latency
Again, the Raptor wins for pure speed. They obviously aren't as concerned with space, seeing an 80G drive listed in the post.
In addition, every Maxtor drive I've had has failed well before any WD drive I've owned. I no longer buy Maxtors for this reason - a cheaper drive in this case doesn't just refer to the price.
In fact, I've just had my last Maxtor drive fail on me and I replaced it with a WD. I'm now running all WD/Seagate drives. The 5 year warranty on the Seagate drives is hard to beat, as well.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:08 pm
by djfooboo
ThatGuy wrote:Said some stuff
No comment
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:28 pm
by sam
lag != dropped frames
lag is latency from the network. it has nothing to do with your video cards. the people that bitch about studdering are the morons who can't properly configure a game and just set everything to high
also, if you want your computer to sound like a jet engine go with maxtor. raptors are nice but fuck 1 year warranties. Seagate & Hitachi for life.
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:37 pm
by Spazz
sam wrote:lag != dropped frames
lag is latency from the network. it has nothing to do with your video cards. the people that bitch about studdering are the morons who can't properly configure a game and just set everything to high
Took the words directly from my mouth. Thus the "lag" part :p
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:03 am
by Green Tea
Spazz wrote:sam wrote:lag != dropped frames
lag is latency from the network. it has nothing to do with your video cards. the people that bitch about studdering are the morons who can't properly configure a game and just set everything to high
Took the words directly from my mouth. Thus the "lag" part :p
It is technically correct to refer to dropped frames as a "graphics lag." Yes some people pin their crappy graphics card lag on the network, but that's just because they're retarded, and when I'm dictator they will die.
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:35 pm
by Riot
Hopefully I'll get a lot of money for graduation and I'll be able to get a few better parts, but not exceed 900 or 1000. Yayayayayay.
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:36 pm
by Riot
Well I got like $1600 for my graduation party so I upgraded a bit =) I'm about to order this I think, does everything look good?
Summary
CASE : Hot New! X-Cruiser Mid-Tower 420W Case W/ WINDOW, MultiMeter Display & Control (Black Color)
CPU : (939-pin) AMD ATHLON64 3500+ CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD : (Sckt939)MSI K8N NEO4-F nForce4 Chipset SATA Raid PCI-E w/GbLAN,USB2.0,&7.1Audio
MEMORY : 1024 MB (512MBx2) PC3200 400MHz Dual Channel DDR MEMORY (Corsair XMS High Performance Memory w/ Heat Spreader)
HARD DRIVE : Seagate 120GB 7200RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB Cache
Hard Drive 2 : NONE
VIDEO CARD : NVIDIA Geforce 6800 256MB 16X PCI EXPRESS VIDEO CARD--Powered by Leadtek
VIDEO CARD 2 : NONE
Optical Drive : NONE
Optical Drive 2 : COMBO DRIVE (16X DVD-ROM & 52x32x52 CD-RW) (BLACK COLOR)
MONITOR & LCD : FujiPlus FP768 17" 12MS Response Time Gaming TFT LCD (2TONE - BLK/SIL)
SOUND : HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
PRICE: $1312.00
This includes a monitor now, without monitor, the system itself is $1077. This doesn't include an Operating System or Microsoft Works or anything, but I have a burned copy of Windows XP that I hope will work. Once I get down to IU, I'm going to buy Office Professional for like $25 instead of the $300 it's asking for on the website, and I might buy an actual copy of Windows XP, if it's even necessary, I'm not sure. How easy is it, if I were to decide to buy a new Windows XP, to replace the burned one with an actual copy? Thanks, I'd like opinions on if anything should be changed or anything =)