Possible Fraud? (Ho or anyone, help needed!)

BeatmaniacIIDX · Post by **BeatmaniacIIDX** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:46 pm

So, I'm selling my french horn. The potential buyer lives in Holland. Here's a copy of the email he sent back to me.. Tell me what you think.

THANKS FOR THE MAIL.I LIVE IN HOLLAND.I WILL BE PAYING $1,700 IN OTHER FOR YOU TO KEEP IT FOR ME.THE PRICE IS OKAY BY ME.I HAVE A ASSOCIATE WHO IS OWING ME $6,000 AND HE HAS AGREED TO PAY ME BACK.I TOLD HIM I HAVE A FRENCH HORN TO BUY,HE TOLD ME I SHOULD GO ON AND BUY IT. HE SAID HE WILL ISSUE THE SELLER A CASHIER CHECK DRAWN IN US BANK.HE TOLD ME TO ASK FOR YOUR FULL NAME,CONTACT ADDRESS,ZIPCODE AND PHONE NUMBER SO THAT HE CAN SEND THE CHECK TO YOU.HE WILL SEND YOU THE( $6,000) CHECK AND WHEN THE CHECK GET TO YOU AND THE CHECK CLEARS IN YOUR BANK,YOU HAVE TO DEDUCT THE COST OF THE FRENCH HORN($1,700) AND YOU WILL SEND THE REMAININMG FUNDS TO MY SHIPPER,AS FOR THE SHIPPING.I HAVE A SHIPPING AGENT WHO WILL COME TO YOUR DESTINATION AND DO THE PICK UP OF THE FRENCH HORN.HE WILL TAKE PROPER CARE OF IT.YOU HAVE TO WIRE THE REMAINING BALANCE THROUGH WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER TO MY SHIPPER SO THAT THEY CAN COME FOR THE PICK UP OF IT.I WILL LIKE YOU TO G ET BACK ASAP IF THIS TRANSACTION IS OKAY YOU AND PLS INCLUDE YOUR FULL DETAILS I ASKED YOU TO GIVE SO THAT HE CAN SEND THE CHECK TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.ALSO,I WILL WAIT FOR THE CHECK TO CLEAR IN YOUR BANK BEFORE WE PROCEED.THIS IS THE ONLY WAY I CAN PAY FOR IT.THANKS

Riot · Post by **Riot** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:47 pm

Pretty sure it's a scam.

malictus · Post by **malictus** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:50 pm

This is DEFINITELY a scam; do NOT sell to this person!

I've been reading a lot about this kind of scam lately, and even know someone who got burned by it. The cashier's check and/or money order that they send will be a FAKE, but the check will still appear to have cleared and the funds will show up in your account. Shortly after you wire them the remaining money, you will get a phone call from your bank telling you that the check was a fake, and you'll be out THOUSANDS of dollars. The reason this scam works is that people think that once a check clears they are safe.

Stay away!

malictus · Post by **malictus** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:57 pm

The “fake cashier’s check” scam works like this: You're selling something, usually on- line and the so-called buyer wants to pay more than your asking price with a cashier's check. They ask you send the difference along, in another cashier's check, to their so-called "transfer" agent. The buyer's check turns out to be a fake, but it's too late for you. The check your bank gave you, the one you sent along, is real and the bank can hold you liable for the whole amount.

See http://www.azcentral.com/12news/consume ... 05-CR.html

Green Tea · Post by **Green Tea** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:02 am

tell him sure thing, but you need shipping money upfront because you're broke.. then ship him a paper cornocopia with french words written all over it. He'll get the point. and be persistant to get the check

sam · Post by **sam** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:21 am

that is most definitly a scam, i get those on ebay all the time. I was once offered $2k for a psp!

It's really sad how far people will go just to get a quick buck

I'm more scared that they scower our buy/sell forum.

Secef · Post by **Secef** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:25 pm

Fuck. I was hoping for a new car too.

Edit: It's Casey on Kyler's computer.

Post by Ho » Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:35 pm

You should already have your answer, but since you addressed me specifically...

My advice:
Run far, far away until you can no longer hear this scammer SCREAMING at you!

Green Tea · Post by **Green Tea** » Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:44 pm

it really bugs me that people can be so uncaring.

BeatmaniacIIDX wrote:I'm in a money crisis and as much as I don't want to, I'm going to have to sell my french horn.

The fact that he was trying to rip someone off when they even say that is horrible.

Not only that, I noticed the email was all in caps. When in caps, it is harder to read, and more likely to skip over things. my guess to why he did that.

DjKARL · Post by **DjKARL** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:05 pm

This is a HUGE scam as no one in their right mind would pay six thousand bones for a french horn. Always stick to tried and true Mcdonald's way to do business: pay up front (first window), then product comes later (second window).

Mosh_Mosh_Revolution · Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:09 pm

The real question here is....

What the fuck is Holland??!

TheVaulting1 · Post by **TheVaulting1** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:47 pm

I say you kinda go with it, then call the police and get the shipping agent, maybe he is in on it, if not the guy.

Green Tea · Post by **Green Tea** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:26 am

Mosh_Mosh_Revolution wrote:The real question here is....

What the fuck is Holland??!

Holland is a country in the netherlands.

They have Windmills.

Mosh_Mosh_Revolution · Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:37 am

They also have

?

Silly Holland! n_n

What else does Holland have?

God Of Rock · Post by **God Of Rock** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:55 am

FUCK HOLLAND!!