Men vs. Women: Questions.

[The X]

Back on topic:
I know that there are stay at home dads, now, and men that cook and clean up the house and such...

But I have yet to see a male secretary. I mean...if they're male secretaries, are they called "assistants," or something like that?

Yes. They are.

I know in my old school, when the male students, and even the adults, were in the office helping out with the work(Myself being one of them), we were dubbed as assisstants, rather than secretaries.

Makes not a lick of sense to me.

Here's a question. Why is it when Men have muscles, it's considered sexy, and when women have muscles, it's ugly?

Discuss.

[XeroCi]

because women with muscles just are
ew... muscular chicks
to women, guys arn't.... duh.

[Jinchuu]

Some muscular women start to look more like men after a while. Personally, I think it just takes away all the feminine qualities that really make women attractive. Who would you pick? The soft, curvacious woman, or the one that looks like she was carved out of rock? Think of prehistoric times, men with muscles would show that he's strong, then the man could just go club the blonde chick with big hooters over the head and drag her back to his cave to make babies. Nobody'd go after the ripped chick. Who the hell wants a girl who'd club you instead?

[Spazz]

Some muscular women start to look more like men after a while. Personally, I think it just takes away all the feminine qualities that really make women attractive. Who would you pick? The soft, curvacious woman, or the one that looks like she was carved out of rock? Think of prehistoric times, men with muscles would show that he's strong, then the man could just go club the blonde chick with big hooters over the head and drag her back to his cave to make babies. Nobody'd go after the ripped chick. Who the hell wants a girl who'd club you instead?

You don't think a chick that could kick your ass is sexy?




Yeah, me neither.

[Green Tea]

Some muscular women start to look more like men after a while. Personally, I think it just takes away all the feminine qualities that really make women attractive. Who would you pick? The soft, curvacious woman, or the one that looks like she was carved out of rock? Think of prehistoric times, men with muscles would show that he's strong, then the man could just go club the blonde chick with big hooters over the head and drag her back to his cave to make babies. Nobody'd go after the ripped chick. Who the hell wants a girl who'd club you instead?

it's because a primary component to muscle building is testosterone, normally straight men don't look for women with alot of testosterone.... Most men prefer a woman that has alot of estrogen... but not too much.... because if they have too much they'll call you every day and then start complaining how they need more space (go figure)

[Original Sin]

Women gain large amounts of muscle at the expense of femenine curves, and most men are attracted to female qualities, not male qualities. Men like women for a number of reasons, but the soft curves and femenine appearance is defenitely one of them.

[Stoned Orc]

yeah women and muscles definately don't mix. i think either sex can have too much muscles though. do women actually think pro weightlifters are hot? cuz they just look like freaks to me.

one thing's for sure though: give a girl an M-16, a hat, and a bigfreakinaxe and damn that's hot.

kinda going along with the male secretary thing.. i'm taking this into teaching class that they make all us n00b first year grad students take and our teacher is like "yeah if you're a girl you're going to have some problems. you've gotta be ridgid" .... and then he was like telling them how to deal if a bunch of guys sit in the front row just because they think she's a "cute number" and don't take her seroiusly

is it harder for women to be in leadership positions than men?

[Mosh_Mosh_Revolution]

I think that it's harder for women to be in leadership roles than men for quite a few different reasons.

One, men are, by nature, taken more seriously, and raised as such. On the other hand, women are brushed off more often and are coddled so much as they're raised. Just by the ways of society and the ways we were raised, unless you're phenomenal, powerful, or bitchy, a woman will almost always be overlooked.

Hahahahah, equal opportunity kicked that stuff's ass, though.

Sorry, off track.

By nature, men get things done. Plain and simple. They believe in righting wrongs and taking the action that needs to be taken. Which is why they really make fabulous leaders.

Woman, however, even if they don't want to, can often tend to lean in toward the mother-like side of themselves. They would rather compromise than possibly rile up more argument in the sake of a definite solution.

For these reasons, I would never want a woman president. Sounds terrible. But I want somebody leading our country that will step forward and take action when something bad happens, as opposed to somebody that would want to try and talk things out with the enemy.

[ItAmi]

I'm still fascinated by the idea that most women I've met simply refuse to play video games, or look into the personal computer as a hobby (although this board seems to contradict that a little....). I heard once that women look at computers as tools that perform required tasks, while men get fascinated and make a living around shit like that (for example, cars). I don't know. An answer from a woman on either side of the deal could solve something.



...Discuss if you feel you want to

[ItAmi]

Sorry for double posting, but about what mosh was talking about, I feel that's the reason why we NEED a woman president. Take a minute and look at the world's countries as a bunch of houses in a neighborhood. If my next door neighbor was blaring really loud music, and keeping my family up at night, I wouldn't want to walk over there, walk into his house, and beat the shit out of him. A woman would walk over there and do everything she could to get the stereo turned down without anyone getting hurt, yet have some protection on hand in the event that something got ugly, as opposed to making everything ugly at first.

[SoDeepPolaris]

I think that it's harder for women to be in leadership roles than men for quite a few different reasons.

One, men are, by nature, taken more seriously, and raised as such. On the other hand, women are brushed off more often and are coddled so much as they're raised. Just by the ways of society and the ways we were raised, unless you're phenomenal, powerful, or bitchy, a woman will almost always be overlooked.

Hahahahah, equal opportunity kicked that stuff's ass, though.

Sorry, off track.

By nature, men get things done. Plain and simple. They believe in righting wrongs and taking the action that needs to be taken. Which is why they really make fabulous leaders.

Woman, however, even if they don't want to, can often tend to lean in toward the mother-like side of themselves. They would rather compromise than possibly rile up more argument in the sake of a definite solution.

For these reasons, I would never want a woman president. Sounds terrible. But I want somebody leading our country that will step forward and take action when something bad happens, as opposed to somebody that would want to try and talk things out with the enemy.

The whole, Men being leaders and Women not taking any role other than mother originated with European societies for the most part. In America, the Iriqouis women would appoint the male leaders and if there was an occurance they didn't like, they had the right to pull that man off the council. They also controlled military supplies, so if they disagreed with a quarrel, they could refuse to supply the warriors.

The whole, saber-rattling, get things done strategy doesn't always work with leadership. In fact, it's had alot of problems in the past. I think something like that, in a leadership case, should be based on the individual and not their sex.

[Original Sin]

The trick wth leadership is to be strong, of course...but to also be willing to compromise, and work things out diplomatically.
Man or woman, it's irrelivent...but you have to talk first, and see if you can settle your differences through discussion or compromise. However, if that doesn't work, you have to have the strength to do what is necessary, and NOT back down, if you are justified in acting.
The current was is a good example of what not to do. We didn't exhaust our diplomatic options, and instead went guns blazing into a world that no one supported, and tarnished America's image. These are kinds of things we need to avoid doing.....We have the power to do it, but it doesn't mean we should.

[ItAmi]

*Zips up flame retardant suit*

Well, that's because the current pres is the drunk redneck who WOULD kick the shit out of you without asking questions.

[Green Tea]

*Zips up flame retardant suit*

Well, that's because the current pres is the drunk redneck who WOULD kick the shit out of you without asking questions.

You are entitled to your opinion but try to learn a thing or two about what is going on with politics before making generalized statements especially when it doesn't even add anything to the discussion.

But original sin is right, you need to act, not just speak of your actions. however, we didn't just go in there guns blazing. We went for support, we talked to other countries. The president did NOT take executive power in this case and send all the troops based on his hunch. It's a rather long process he had to undergo with much planning. The question is, would we have gotten another terrorist action against us if we hadn't gone to war? NOBODY can say no... likewise NOBODY can say yes. Instead of creating problems for the country by complaining I say you should support the war so you can get out of it faster. You notice back in world war 2 and 1 we had a great national war effort. However take a look at vietnam where there was a group of people that were completely anti war and demonstrating against it.

Take a look at the mother who lost her son in the war and is causing this huge media event.... we have so few casualties here and people still make it seem like it's the worst thing since vietnam. Yes, people are still dying, that's what happens in war... you should not expect to get off with NO casualties. Before you all say "the war wasn't needed" give me adaquate proof that they were not going to attack us again. And then give me an alternative to our actions, what we should've done.

Discussions and compromise does not work with fundamentalists who don't even have a care for their own lives let alone their fellow people. I would like to know what diplomatic options we had?

[SoDeepPolaris]

Before you all say "the war wasn't needed" give me adaquate proof that they were not going to attack us again.

*cough*Iraq didn't attack us*cough*

Technically, the Iraqi war isn't a war, as it was never declared by Congress.

ANYWAYS, let's get back on topic.

One of my friends was serving lunch at school(at my school we have tiny little jobs that we do on a regular basis), and a freshman who is suspected of being gay(I don't see any reason why it should matter, just gossip bait) gets veggie pizza when we have pizza. She commented on it to me later, by saying guess what pizza HE gets, veggie. I asked why it mattered and she said it came off kind of homosexual. Well, this bothered me a ton, because there's no link between not eating meat and being homosexual. I asked her what about the girls who got veggie and she didn't act like that was gay to do.

Anyone else ever hear something like that?